Patrick McCarthy and George Donahue have a dialogue on the old CD - Part 9

 

Back in 1997 I was new to the internet and the CyberDojo. Almost immediately I found a lengthy dialogue between  Patrick McCarthy and George Donahue.

Patrick was a well known competitor, practitioner and author on his arts. He knew George as his book editor at Tuttle, but not as a martial artist.

George had been raised in Japan, was on an old Samuri tv series as a youth playing the younger version of the samurai for flashbacks when he learned vartiou lessons. He later trained in karate on Okinawa. Established a Kashiba Juku group in the states and eventually became the martial arts editor  for Tuttle Publications.

Knowing that Patrick was in a somewhat heated discussion on the CD when George weighed in. Beginning what would be a lengthy discussions of an extremely erudite level of discourse. I do not know of another discussion of similar character. A discussion that does not exist  today.

This will be challenging but well worth the effort.

Because of it's length I am breaking it into several parts.
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From Digest 1396

Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 20:23:02 +1000
From: "Patrick McCarthy" <Bujin@bigpond.com>
To: <karate@raven.cc.ukans.edu>
Message-ID: <10432646814997@onaustralia.com.au>

Dear George (Donohue)

Greetings from Australia, where the most beer in the world is consumed daily. Not that I personally have anything to do with such a phenomenon, however, and Bob can back me up on that one too. Right Bob?  Any way, was on the digest and just thought I'd say hi and share one of my favorite quotes with you about principles. "These are my principles and if you don't like them......I have others." WC Fields

Patrick  

Those who have finished by making all others think with them, have usually
been those who began by daring for themselves." Colton
International Ryukyu Karate Research Society http://203.32.12.133

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From Digest 1398  Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:09:00 CDT

Date: 21 Aug 97 13:43:36
From: gdonahue@randomhouse.com
To: karate@raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: principles of beer consumption
Message-ID: <199708211822.AA26766@interlock.randomhouse.com>

Patrick (McCarthy):

> Dear George (Donohue)
>
> Greetings from Australia, where the most beer in the world
> is consummed daily. Not that I personally have anything to
> do with such a phenomenon, however, and Bob can back
> me up on that one too. Right Bob?  Any way, was on the
> digest and just thought I'd say hi and share one of my
> favorite quotes with you about principles. "These are my
> principles and if you don't like them......I have others." WC Fields
>
>Patrick  
>
> Those who have finished by making all others think with
> them, have usually been those who began by daring for
> themselves." Colton

Greetings from NYC, where I've been on a long campaign to Foster the Australian  economy.  Lately, though, I've cut back for health/weight reasons to just one 25 oz. oilcan per evening.

Nice quotes.  Here's one I like to repeat to new students as they begin studying bojutsu:  "When a boy gets a stick in his hands, his brains run out the other end of it."  They seldom get it, though, and we seem to spill a lot of brain cells on our deck.  Messy, but good for footwork practice.   ;-)

Gambatte!


George (Donahue)
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gdonahue@randomhouse.com / gdonahue.kishaba.juku.usa@juno.com
Kishaba Juku of New York City at the Ken Zen Institute of Japanese Martial Arts
and Culture
Okinawa Karate-Do Shorin Ryu Kishaba Juku / Matsubayashi Ryu / Ryukyu Kobujutsu
Nana korobi, ya oki.

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Well I did warn you this was something else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

To the best of my knowledge this is the only discussion between Patrick and George.  I learned a great deal from this discussion.