Wednesday, January 28, 2026

You have eyes but do you really see?



Taking a few screen prints from somewhat latter in the Kise Sensei Clinic video I shared earlier, I believe it is worth considering.

 
Too often IMO people see one application potential for a movement. Here Kise shows how an entire range of potentials are present. How a strike with the fingertips can be delivered to a variety of different targets. Or how the manner of stepping into a turn can be just a step, or a smashing kick to the opponents toes and then continue with the technique application.

 
I have only done this for the smallest portion of that video.

 
It really is a great example of how Okinawan karate might be used.
 

The video is no longer available


























Another look at the Potential use of Chin Na in Karate Study





While my martial experience included several versions of Okinawan and Japanese karate, some aikido and Indonesian Tjimande in the early 1980 I found the books of Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming.

 

And they kept coming on a variety of Chinese Arts. When he published an incredible book on Chin Na one of the instructors I was training with, as everything in the book was reklated to the Tjimande he practiced. He showed me in reality technique from that book also from his studies.

 

IMO Dr. Yang in addition to promoting his Chinese Arts studies believed the could show a tie in to karate studies with his Chin Na. He did not do karate, but I saw how these studied could be used with every karate system.

 

An important subsidiary to the study of karate should be Chinese Chin Na (or Quin Na) which means “grappling or seizing “ techniques within most Chinese Arts. Chin Na is not a separate art, rather one component of those arts. It also has been referred to as ‘dividing the muscle/tendons and misplacing the bones’.

 

In his book Advanded Tai Chi 2 he explains how Martial (even tai chi) movement can be applied. It was the 1984 edition of Advanced Tai Chi 2 by Dr. Yang Jwing- Ming. At a time kata applications were first being discussed in the magazines as ‘bunkai’  he showed how each of the major techniques of tai chi could be applied. And going from memory the structure he used was this. Each movement was shown as working in 3 different ways: Downing the Opponent, Chin Na and Cavity Strikes.   I have seen others adopt this analysis with changes such as dividing sub-characteristics into separate divisions. Such as turning the 3 methods into 5 methods,  IMO this was an influence by the many who were developing karate applications back in those days.
 
Downing the Opponent meaning using the technique as a takedown of throwing technique.
Chin Na controlling techniques which could also project the attacker.
Cavity Strikes or where the technique strikes into the body for effect.

Taken  together a useful way to analyze motions from form.

 

I have tried to suggest this is a valued study several times in the past on my blog. Here are some of those posts.


An Aikido/Chin Na Story
The Practice and Study of Small Joint Manipulation, Small Joint techniques
Source Material to Understand Movement

Practical Chin Na by Zhao Dai Yuah
Another Look at Practical Chin Na by Zhao Dai Yuah

Dr, Yang Jwing-Ming
An adjunct study to increase your martial effectiveness.
Two works by Dr. Yang Jwing- Ming
  “While the works are about tai chi, they also have very relevant Chin Na information in them
Chin Na and Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming
Comprehensive applications of Shaolin Chin Na
Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming the Memory of the Man

Chin Na the Skill of Catch and Hold

Some relevant videos:

YMAA  Shaolin Chin Na 

 

 Tai Chi Chuan - Chin Na -
fight techniques by Dr Yang Jwing-Ming 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etvn0wmBkaU


 

   *this last while showing Chin Na in tai chi technique
nevertheless is a good overview of what can be done with Chin Na.

A note on introducing Chin Na techniques in to your program. Each program has it's own logic on how material is presented. I do not suggest one should introduce all of this immediately. What I did was introduce one technique at a time, say one every six months. Especially I let my wife demonstrate what she had learned on them, allowing them to experience the pain. Then gradually they could see the value to such material, showing how such could conclude a kata technique to down, project of lock an opponent. Small steps that over time accumulate,


 

Some of the Chinese Arts I studied



Once upon a time I studied the Chinese Arts with Ernest Rothrock Laoshi.

I already was studying Yang Long Fist Tai Chi Chaun with him and wished to understand the Chinese Arts better as I often had to judge Chinese forms. For a period of five years I studied various forms from him.

Through diligent research I've found close versions of those forms to share with my students. They are not 100% identical to my studies but are close enough to allow understanding of what I studied.

 
Northern Shaolin (Sil Lum) Duen Da Chaun  
 


Northern Mantis (Tai Tong Long) Chachui   
 
  


Chin Woo Tan Tui               

           
    Video No Longer or YouTube
 

Chin Woo Gong Li Quan  
 

                              

Faan Tzi Ying Jow Pai  Shi Lu Xing Quan (行拳) is known as the "Walking Fist." As I learned it.
 
There are two versions on line. 
 



For the video it is called Eagle Claw Flip Fist Slap Fist 1st to 10th Road


           


Just a small point. The versions I learned from Rothrock Laoshi often used deeper stances and often more dynamic body mechanics. But the techniques shown are reasonably close to the ones I studied.

 

Saturday, January 24, 2026

March 1. 2020 This is How the Day Went



March 1, 2020  Completed 72 turns around the sun so a new one begins, number 72.

 


Started my day sitting out in the warm sun on our patio. I was reading one of the issues of the Journal of Asian Martial Arts I had saved. It was no 4 from 2007 with Ihor Rymaruk on the cover. I had met Ihor years before at a Hidy Ochai tournament and it was a very nice guy. The article was about how he worked out a drill using the Uechi Hondo Undo for advanced student development

 
I had had several Uechi students (Brown Belts with Buzz Durkan) join my group as it was more convenient to their schedule. They shared some of their studies with me (such as Sanchin kata and Seisan kata. It allowed me to better understand what he was describing. I found that article very interesting.

 

From my students sharing I developed my own analysis what to do against an Uechi adept, from their use of grappling with their technique, I worked out it would be better to take an exterior line of attack (not that was always an easy option.

 

What struck me most about this article was how similar their use of grappling would be to that of Faan Tzi Ying Jow Pai (Northers Eagle Claw).

 

This whole process inspired me  and then I dug out a book Ernest Rothrock had sent me about a year ago. It was of  Shum Leung performing the 50 row form Lin Kuen, which contains the entire range of use of eagle claw striking and grappling (all of their variations). That form is the mother form of eagle claw. Extremely difficult to learn and perform, such as keeping all the rows straight in your mind.

 

Back in 1981 Ernest had taught me Hon Kuen (the 10 rows) which contained all of the Eagle Claw techniques. Too complex for my group as they already had enough to do. It was just a practice for me.  But I find having some knowledge how the techniques work, I attempted to teach myself the first 2 rows this morning.

 

I was mentally able to remember them, however in execution mostly blech…. I probably was more an Isshinryu attempt at those rows, but I gave it a try and got something after all. An interesting attempt today.

 

Then we went into Surprise for a birthday lunch. Followed by a short walk.

 

And that is how the day is going.

Serendipity and Change to Karate





Serendipity is often something that has worked in my favor when I have tried to piece together the reasons things changed in karate. Change that affected all karate in different ways.

 

It is clear that when karate moved to Japan it was not different from the way it was taught on Okinawa. But in time it changed. What I found was an old issue of the ‘Journal of Asian Martial Arts’, one of the quality martial publications.

 

When I moved to Arizona I had to dispose of much of my martial library. Hundreds of pieces then of less relevance, more for reasons of space and being able to haul it here. This issue of JAMA was one of several I kept, more out of chance than anything, a memory of what was in those issues. Almost every issue had something of relevance to me as well as many articles that did not fit my needs.

 

So in JAMA Volume 16, Number 3 an article by Giles Hopkins titled “Politics and Karate: Historical Influence on the Practice of Goju-Ryu” did not necessarily make an impression on me. As an Isshinryu stylist I am only tangentially interested in Goju discussion. But reading it today I see how valuable Giles Hopkins discussion really is.

 

And the shame is likely most of you have not seen it.

 

What he explores is how economics and politics (as social pressure) affected Okinawan karate when he then examines the account of the 1936 meeting of the Okinawan Masters and the subsequent events.

 

That meeting was sponsored by an Okinawan living in Japan who published a small newspaper. Nakasone Genwa was passionately interested in promoting karate and also published several books on that theme. He called the meeting on Okinawa, along with Miyagi Chojun, to promote all karate to a better place in Japan for the good of Okiawa.

 

In my own poor words I will try to summarize that detailed article.

 

First you must realize Okinawa was very cash poor against the rest of Japan. It was not well regarded and almost influence in Japan and no control of what occurred to itself. Depressed 54,000 Okinawan’s moved away, often sending money home to help make up for what Japan wasn’t doing for Okinawa.

 

Japan was coming off of a war, part of which made them realize being able to strengthen the young was important to Japan’s interests. Okinawa had already done part of that, claiming karate in the school system was both quasi-military education and for physical education. They had also begun a public education campaign to state the purpose was for physical education and not for brutal hand to hand combat.  Miyagi himself had written that karate could be used for its health benefits for the nation in 1933 clearly thinking about how to popularize the public perception of karate.

 

The 1936 meeting primarily addressed several issues which addressed the politics behind karate in the overall Japan which Okinawa was a part.

 

Foremost the adoption of the recast of the name for karate to mean empty hand, was to encourage Japan away from the reality of the China roots to the art. Japan had been at war with China and they agreed to change the term to moderate any Japanese feelings. They agreed that a more pubic form of karate used for strengthen the people by using new forms to be developed. After that meeting a group formed to commission those new forms be created.

 

Those forms, 10 of them, were created however the war intervened and much changed. They were never formally adopted. They were published in Nakasone’s 1938 publication of the ‘Karate Do Taiken’.

 

At heart those things were done to make Okinawa appear more sensitive to the views of the Japanese state. The island had partially already done this by the adoption of  karate training in the school systems.

 

In Japan Miyagi and Mabuni published books working towards the same goals. For example Mabuni only showed more fundamental bunkai for kata. The karate in Japan did not show a great amount of the bunkai actually in the kata to emphasize the value in karate was more to physically strengthen of the practitioners. As for Miyagi ,Hopkins  suggests that is why the division was made for the kihon and kaishu kata of Goju Ryu. (But that is not so much why I find this so interesting). I believe we can see how these changes manifested themselves in how karate became what ie became in Japan as time passed. Developed more along the lines stated from that conference in 1936.

 

I admit I have left many details that Hopkins Sensei made out of this discussion. But everything has always been in change as it still is.

 

Karate may not have changed on Okinawa, but many instructors also taught in those schools over time. Then after the war when Japan was to have taken over the administration of Okinawa, many of the features of the Japanese karate were adopted on Okinawa. Then and of consequence to this day.

 

Economics and Politics still are having an effect to change karate. When one thinks about the changes of commeralization, the need for insurance and government standards which affect karate. The need for many schools to show a profit to exist. We can see those new pressures still exist but in changing different forms.

With the worldwide spread of forms of karate, worldwide organizations, the spread of competition and many other things we can clearly see that all of that also becomes the politics (social pressure) of today.

 

I believe the more clearly see what occurred in the past we can reflect on what is occurring today.

 

 
Patrick McCarthy has the details of the meeting of 1936 on his site at https://irkrs.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-1936-meeting-of-okinawan-karate.html#!/2013/08/the-1936-meeting-of-okinawan-karate.html



 

 

Addendum:

 

More serendipity, among the few volumes I saved was Journal of Asian Martial Arts  Volume 8 – Number 1  from 1999.

 

It has an article by Fred Lohse called “Self –Transformation & the Martial Art in the American Cultural Environment”. A perfect look forward to what happened in more current times to karate in America. IMO it is a continuation of how (politics or the American Social Pressures) are changing the arts. Fred goes into great detail how a non-Okinawan society moved the arts into new layers of justification for change. It does not address the economic pressure  also causing changes, such as karate becoming a small business, etc.

 

And of course we must recognize those pressures have continued to make Okinawa change karate there too.

This is also worth listening to:

The Shuhari Concept: Imitate, Innovate, Invent
 

Another Journey Around the Sun




 
Yesterday I completed my 73rd trip around the sun and that means today I begin another circuit.

 

Age is just that age. It does not bring wisdom perhaps a bit of knowledge that few seem to follow, whatever.

Age does mean you have seen ages move from one to another. I would like to talk abet about one of those occurrences.

 

 When I began in the mid 1970s my Isshinryu journey, class was mostly focused on training, lectures not so much.

There was little information about the arts around, at first I found the karate magazines, then slowly some books. Very few as that went, I tended to believe everything in them and accepted those articles were the way things were.

 

Then in time there were more magazines and more books. I noted that events I attended and participated in were not the same as  described in those articles. That was the beginning to understand the need to filter what I saw.

 

Then more time, training in many styles, many more magazines and purchasing almost every book I could find.

 

I began to gain a better filter of what I read, realizing that those articles and books might be what the author saw from their perspective. Yet also began to understand that was not necessarily reality either.

 

Then there were VHS tapes to DVD disks and suddenly almost everything you ever wished to see was available for a few dollars.

 

Then the internet happened, discussion groups allowed you access to MA’s around the world. For example a Japanese translator explained many of those books incorrectly called keri as geri and so forth. So many of those books became suspect, and then more and more.

 

Time moved on and YouTube freed almost everyone to share everything. A Cornucopia of video, tood, bad and ugly became available.

 

The internet moved past discussion groups, where people tried to describe in detail what they saw. Instead they were replaced by Face book and far less discussion and more button clicking like.

 

Most of the magazines are gone. The best of them such the Journal of Martial Arts or Meibukan are but memories.

Likewise most of the books are also gone. In retrospect most of them were one time publications not republished. And so much information was no longer available.

 

Of course the publishing industry has changed, more books print as ordered publications and sold over the internet.

 

There are individuals who are keeping up intelligent martial discussion, but it also seems fewer than in the past.

 

Part of this came from my blog which I created for my students to have available what I have seen,experienced for their future needs. But believing information ought to be shared I have done so with over 600,000 having visited it but there has been little discussion about what is their either. So many like to view.

 

I suspect it will be more difficult in the future.

 

I have always worked hard to see whatever I could see. Now I am awash with some things, but things that mean less to me.

 

So another journey begins.

 
Tallahassee Karate Club said...

I miss the days of thoughtful discussion, like the Koshi Discussion Group, and the original CyberDojo. Maybe it's a sign that people are actually spending more time training than talking now. Probably not. Be well, Victor!

Reflections on 25 Years in Karate







Back in 1997 it occurred to me that with so many different experiences in my near 25 years of training and teaching, perhaps I should record them to be able to refer to those experiences in the future. I had learned a long time before the value of creating notes of my training. Because it is said if you don’t write it down it didn’t happen. And I had notebooks filled with what I had learned and seen.

 

So I began to write and write and write. The completed document was 86 pages long, with an appendix about those who I had trained with. In effect I had written a book.

 

I did review what I typed, manually correcting some things, correcting typos and grammatical errors to some extent.

Then set it aside not looking at it again till now.

 

I find it a fair summation of what I went through, why, how and my opinions on many things.

 

It was not written for others to see, that being so I could be more honest of my opinions about what I experienced.

 

At one level I don’t need this, after all I went through all of this. But as the experiences added up, as the kata/forms learned increased, etc. it is helpful to put all of what happened in the actual time context for my sanity.

 

Of course there are many details that are not there. An example of one of them follows.

 

For example one night with Tristan Sutrsno he was teaching us how to walk silently in a forest ( something he acquired in Indonesia ) to step and not break a twig underfoot. Then to flow your weight on the front foot after ensuring nothing breakable was underneath. Something not normally in karate instruction anyplace I have trained.


But more strange I had already been trained in the process. That training came from the tai chi walking practice taught to me by Ernest Rothrock. The manner of stepping in tai chi was identical to what Tristan was showing.
 

I did not explain that to him, just focused on doing it as he was shown.

 

Over the subsequent years I have not had the need to show my students this. But the memory remains bright.

 

Taking the time to record what one has done can be useful to oneself in the future.

 

And what you don’t take the time to record, why then it may not have happened.