Was there a difference between Te and Tode?

 

André Mucci

In the famous "The Meeting of Okinawan Karate Masters in 1936", Zenpatsu Shimabukuro, Director of Okinawa Prefectural Library, said: "Here in Okinawa, we used to call" Tii "or" Te "for karate. To differentiate from it, we called "Toodii" or "Tode" for karate that was brought from China. " What do you think about this? Was there a difference between Te and Tode?

 

Van Hiên Bui To De means "Tang Tsü" = Hands from China.
Te is the common name for all the okinawian martial techniques. It's a question of how to call. In Okinawa there's many local martial techniques according to what I've learned before the coming of the 36 chinese families and the trade exchanges between Okinawa and China.

 

Andreas Quast I could state my own ideas, but I stumbled over this and think it should be considered carefully. Ti refers to martial arts of Oni Oshiro and the like, so it refers to armed and unarmed combative arts of Ryukyuan history, or even military arts. The thing here is, such methods actually existed all over the world and appeared naturally in history. Then, Todi seems to refer what became karate. I know this is unsufficient as an explanation. http://ryukyu-bugei.com/?p=8334

 

The ti of Chatan Yara, and the kenpō of Tōdī SakugawaThe ti of Chatan Yara, and the kenpō of Tōdī Sakugawa

 

Robert Chu Ti is their generic name for martial arts; like Kun Tao, Quan Fa, or Gung Fu.

 

 Andy Sloane Tode specifically referred to martial arts from China.

 

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