Joe-san on Oshiro Seisan kata

I miss discussions like this

Seinsei OSHIRO kata Seisan
This video is about Seinsei Zenei OSHIRO: kata Seisan filmed during a workshop under the aegis of the OGSE and the UAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZR9Ugm4nv4

> I would like to know some knowledge about Oshiro Seisan,
how it differs from for example Kyan-sensei's version and what is its lineage.



I have only ever seen/read this in the 1930 "Kenpo Gaisetsu" (by Miki Nisaburo and Takada {Mutsu} Mizuho). I have never seen it performed "live" so to speak. However, from the book, it seems virtually identical to the Kyan version(s)... and also very similar to the "Matsumura Seisan" as described in Sakagami Ryusho's 1978 "Karatedo Kata Taikan."


I have talked to Kinjo Hiroshi about this kata as well.


Kinjo was a direct student of Oshiro Chojo and he knows this kata. According to Kinjo, Oshiro learned this kata as well as the Oyadomari no Passai from Iha Kodatsu of Tomari. Hence, Kinjo feels that it should be called Tomari Seisan and NOT Oshiro Seisan.

Hope this helps?

Joe Swift