Monday, September 5, 2016

The practice and study of small joint manipulation, finger locking techniques etc.

 
 
 
Regarding the practice and study of small joint manipulation, finger locking techniques etc. I have been on the receiving end of such with many instructors in karate. The techniques always work. But in my experience most of the time the approach to this is episodic.

At the same time the same principles are being used. After all fingers only bend so many ways and many of them cause pain. In the Chinese arts (To make a distinction) most systems have methods of grappling fingers and joints. Systems such as Northern Mantis and Northern Eagle Claw make those studies central practices. Then again many systems of JuJutsu and Aiki contain the same methods. The methods are not secrets, just different approaches to presenting them.
I am going a little off the reservation on this, but the most extensive training I have seen is presented by Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming, on his many books and videos on ChinNa.

Back in 1978, when my I did not have the free time, my wife took a 9 month course on Chin Na with Dr. Yang. He structured the locks very logically in the training, beginning with the fingers, then the wrist, then the elbow, etc. As he is a Doctor of Engineering there is no question he applied logic to the order of study.

When I came home from work, and my wife arrived home form the class, she used to ask me to grab her, then I got it. Pure Pain time after time. I am sure she enjoyed as I had sent her to emergency several times back in the 70s teaching her how to spar (and I swear I was going easy). The training does work.

It is not structured in our training this way, but it is present all the same.
I thnik this is what you want in part. And this is not terribly advanced, for there is much more.

Shaolin Chin No Dr Yang Jwing Ming
. I have been on the receiving end of such with many instructors in karate. The techniques always work. But in my experience most of the time the approach to this is episodic.



At the same time the same principles are being used. After all fingers only bend so many ways and many of them cause pain. In the Chinese arts (To make a distinction) most systems have methods of grappling fingers and joints. Systems such as Northern Mantis and Northern Eagle Claw make those studies central practices. Then again many systems of JuJutsu and Aiki contain the same methods. The methods are not secrets, just different approaches to presenting them.
I am going a little off the reservation on this, but the most extensive training I have seen is presented by Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming, on his many books and videos on ChinNa.


Back in 1978, when my I did not have the free time, my wife took a 9 month course on Chin Na with Dr. Yang. He structured the locks very logically in the training, beginning with the fingers, then the wrist, then the elbow, etc. As he is a Doctor of Engineering there is no question he applied logic to the order of study.


When I came home from work, and my wife arrived home form the class, she used to ask me to grab her, then I got it. Pure Pain time after time. I am sure she enjoyed as I had sent her to emergency several times back in the 70s teaching her how to spar (and I swear I was going easy). The training does work.


It is not structured in our training this way, but it is present all the same.
I thnik this is what you want in part. And this is not terribly advanced, for there is much more.


Shaolin Chin No Dr Yang Jwing Ming



 
The practice and study of small joint manipulation, finger locking techniques etc. does require care in training mot to injure your partners. Oft times video show the partner receiving the pain, which does not make sense to learn these techniques.

 

My wife tells a story about training with Dr. Yang in ChinNa. We first met him at a open demonstration. My wife then a 2nd degree black belt was working with a friend, who had difficulty understanding the technique being shown. Dr. Yang worked his way around the room assisting those in attendance and way the friends difficulty. He worked over to them and made observation how our friend could improve his technique. He then asked my wife to demonstrate on him and grabbed her arm. The technique was a small hand wrap, which we were already familiar with from the aikido training with Tris Sutrisno. So she performed the “s” movement on Dr. Yang’s wrist, He immediately dropped to the floor on his knees. From the potential pressure of a proper tecbnique.

 

Later she started to attend the Chin Na 9 month program at a regional Kempo school. When Dr. Yang saw my wife, he began yelling in jest, “Keep her away from me!”

 

But seriously he stressed that only mimimal pressure should be used in practice, and techniques should be practiced only slowly. So of course two students (TKD of course ) would not listen and always went full force on each other, Class after class, no one else would work with them.They ignored Dr. Yang’s admonishments. And kept injuring themselves believing it would make them stronger. He eventually asked them to leave the program.

 

It is easy to abuse the training. Care must be made to train wisely.

 

As a body of material Chin Na is a very vast study,with many many techniques from many systems.It is normally not a stand alone study. Dr. Yang did understand that making stand alone training could assist many martial artists to include such in their training.

 

One does not have everything, just as one does not have to have every system of karate. Rather some techniques that you have developed skill with is all one needs. That and intelligent training.

 

 

 

 

 

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