What should the initial order of Isshinryu kata be?
???
It is my intention with my new students
to teach Kata Sanchin 1st, then Seisan. Any Isshin-Ryu instructors in this
group teach Sanchin 1st?
But that's counter to what Master
Shimabuku taught.
But not counter to what Miyagi taught I'm Goju
not isshin ryu but Goju founder Chojen Miyagi often taught sanchin first and
students would often work only sanchin for years before learning another
kata... wasn't till after the war did Miyagi decide to teach other Katas more
often to keep his style alive... just a thought...
And Tatsuo Sensei felt that new students are
too tight and inflexible as it is so he didn't think it was a good idea to
teach them to tighten up and compound the problem. That's why he taught it much
later in our curriculum.
Shimabuku Tatsuo was following the tradition
of Kyan in teaching Seisan first. That is all, then teaching Sanchin later was
just what he did. If you realize your Isshinryu is for decades of work, it
really dosn't matter then which was taught first, just that hou coutinue to
practice. There are many Sanchin traditions, the Motobu Ryu teaches an open
handed version and a closed fist version. When Miyagi was a student his teacher
K. Hiagonna taught Sanchin both ways,, and I understand he preferred the open
hand version. So Miyagi thought to make a change, then he created a short
Sanchin version (which is the one the Isshinryu version is based on, not the
original one), And Uechi had a strong, and different Sanchin tradition too.
Just practice for decades, and it all becomes clear.
Recently
,during a discussion with Andy Sloan, an Isshin ryu stylist, regarding the
Shimabukuro brothers influences and their varying interpretations of Ryukyu
karate techniques. Of couse the subject of Isshin ryu's inverted fist came up.
I shared with him this picture of my hand and the way myself and others were
taught to make a fist by Shimabukuro Eizo.
His
style interpretation Sukeniahyashi ,as it is usually referred to in Okinawa (
but called Shobayashi elsewhere by many, but not all) has taught this for
decades by Eizo Sensei's first generation students. I am interested hearing who
teaches this old school fist and from where they learned it. I know for sure
that several of Eizo Sensei's students , such as Bill Hayes sensei, Richard
Bonsteel sensei, Bob Weinberg sensei, still use this but I am sure there must
be others both in my style as well as others.Please comment your thoughts no
matter what your style or position.
Right or wrong, this is the Isshin-Ryu
fist I was taught over 20 years ago. Roll all the air out of the 4 straight
fingers, then tuck thumb in the "pocket" on top. Tilt fist
forward/downward just before impact, to strike with first 2 knuckles.
I believe this was filmed in the
Pittsburgh or Ohio area, in the early 1966. Master Shimabuku is seen doing
several sections Isshin-Ryu kata. None of the kata are complete.
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Tatsuo Shimabuku Isshin-Ryu Karate
Rare 1960's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oVDB9zxhqk&t=121s
I believe this was filmed in the
Pittsburgh or Ohio area. Master Shimabuku is seen doing several sections of
different Isshin-Ryu kata. None of the kata are ...
in Pittsburgh he had three sai's and on band
new gym floor he threw one sai into new wood floor as part of kata, most never
knew of this but it was on his first visit to Harry G. Smiths Pittsburgh Dojo
the event was held in local high school gym
The Master's visit to Pittsburgh (and
briefly to Canada) was September through November 1964. The Master's visit to
Tacoma, Knoxville, Cleveland, Jersey City, and New York was October through
December 1966, Dan Jason Price.
Sensei Sloane, I was there in Pittsburgh
(1964) watching as a 8 year old (2-3 x a week); and their dojo was near my
uncle's home. I was hooked ever since.
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