Since this was a new topic and (to my mind) and interesting one, I
raised it at the Pleasant Isshinryu gathering last weekend to see what
people might say.
The question quickly became a kind of "Do you do this, this, or this?"
discussion and, perhaps not surprisingly, the black belts attending
(who practiced Chinto) all said that they did it three different ways,
depending on what they were practicing at the moment: first, a double
jump kick that rises in the air and lands fairly close to the starting
point; second, a double jump kick that flies away from the starting
point and travels, leaving the practitioner with their right foot six
to ten feet from its starting position; third, a two-stage,
non-jumping kick that was a cross between two front kicks done
consecutively walking forward and one front kick followed by a slight
hop into a second front kick. So, in terms of answering the "Do you
do..." question, the answer was "Yes." (A tip of the hat to Bob (he
said it first) Barton.)
The "smallest" chinto that I do (in terms of floor length) has a kata
line that is only about seven or eight feet long. If you take a piece
of brown paper like the kind you used to see in butcher shops (or that
I think is called "craft paper"), cut it to about that length and
start your kata about a foot and a half from one end, you should be
able to fit the whole kata in without ever leaving the paper. I forget
who taught me this but it was in Pittsburgh at the Academy of Oriental
Defenses in 1970 after Bill and Chuck had left to start the Academy of
Isshinryu Karate. I may have heard Steve Armstrong mention it, too, in
the mid-eighties when he stayed with me in Israel for a couple of
weeks. (This can feel cramped if you're used to using a free-wheeling
kata line that can stretch up to twenty feet!)
Regards,
Jim Keenan
Dotokushin-kai
Isshinryu Karate
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leasant_Isshinryu@yahoogroups.com , "chester moyle"
wrote:
> was thinking about chinto and got to thinking abouth the double
> jump kick. i have seen it preformed two ways. some people go for
> distance and other people go for height. what way do you go for. how
> much distance do you use? i seem to remember sensei bohan or one of
> his black belts saying you could do chinto in a very short area.
> would appreciate the feedback.
>
> chester
I had forgotten that long ago Pleasant Isshinryu gathering, it was a fun time to compare notes on our varied practices.
That got me to thinking about different versions of Chinto I have noted.
Tatsuo Shimabuku Chinto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_KPCQQSgqQ
Isshinryƫ karate Chinto kata with twist punches 1970 I stopped at Sulphu. Alas I do not recall the performer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUKPxqpP0E
Bob Bremer Chinto Kata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oum-YEcTDZM
Karl Hovey Chinto 1998 I first saw Karl perform his Chinto in 1976, it was magnificent for he flew so high with his double front kick. So many years later he still flies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWagNerq6HY
Chinto Mr Lewis at his dojo in Wyoming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISvoUoyBSIQ
Charles Murrsay Chinto 1980 This was from a training videol he made for his students in West Germany. About a year or so after he left me to return to the USAF. I nwcwe arusiws Chinto with him, rater I studied it under Tom Lewis in Salisbury 1976-1977,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pcjtTMxYwc
form Chinto Kata - Mike Cassidy 1992 Mike was a Nidan competing in Londonderry, NH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8m4JW7NGXM
Kata Young Lee performed Chinto for me in 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYM7heSsyw
For some other comments on the Isshinryu Doublle Jump Kick I refer you to the following post.
https://isshin-concentration.blogspot.com/2016/06/on-isshinryu-jump-kicks.html
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