What
is the purpose with the runners stance in Kusanku ?
ERozmin-Sensei
Lakan Dalawa
The posture you describe has been the issue of some debate however a consensus
is that the Kata "Kusanku" and it's variants simulate fighting
multiple opponents in a low light environment, the posture serves two purposes,
as I have come to understand over the years, one as mentioned to evade the line
of sight and two to allow you to see your opponents due to sillouetting them.
Usually, but not all liniage, included turning the head to both sides each time
to allow you to locate your opponents. Tatsuo's Kusanku included it and it is
documented in several video's of him performing the kata. 😎
Andy
Sloane
But the eyes do not allow you to see what you're intending to see if you turn
your head because they cannot adjust to the low level of light if you move your
head. The medical science backs this up.
Bill
Pogue
maybe can be fighting in the dark, but I'm guessing its not the main principles
of the kata. more 'deception'. I'm thinking that the ground posture is a
recovery move or ducking out. we originally got airborne on the crescent kick
and the switch-off, but later did not get too much airborne. its also the basic
mechanics of a flying reverse kick should one want to develop such a move.
World
United Isshinryu Karate Association - USA
Master Mitchum taught this as a Kata done at twilight ( dawn or dusk) Going
down Low looking up and using skyline to see silhouettes . As you are low they
can’t see you well either. The opening the kata (with your hands doing the
circular motion) was representative of the moon/sun and the horizon.
That’s what he taught and he said was taught to him.
ERozmin-Sensei
Lakan Dalawa
World
United Isshinryu Karate Association - USA
My liniage is through Nagle and this (is as mentioned above) is the
understanding I was taught as well. I also agree with Bill
PoguePogue
in that undoubtedly an inevitably there is more there than meets the eye as a
whole.
Romney
Taylor
Regarding kusanku , seeing silhouettes ,background lighting,
and Science .
The outcome of a experiment depends on the conditions of
the experiment. There are conditions where this does not
work, and there are conditions where it definitely does.
If you doubt try the experiment your self.
Go to a dark place, like a park , that has lighting outside of it .
Go in a ways, assume the position and then have a friend enter,
Night
is not a constant dark, it changes it texture constantly. At times total dark,
at times moonlight, at times cloudy haze, at times dense fog. From the Kashiba
Juku friends they describe it as fighting in low light conditions. So at times
you may see more, you man see less.
The
use of any kusanku technique in minimal light varies but that does not mean
those uses are impossible. just as use of kusanku technique in the daylight is
possible. One must address the changing environment. Using one Kusanku practice
to think about night is not fixing that for every possibility.
One
of the most memorable classes I conducted for Kusanku was on a dark rainy night
in a field of a summer camp. It was especially interesting when everyone
dropped to the ground putting their faces in water, realizing a need to look to
the side, Been there did that and laughed.
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Ginchin
Funakoshi from his 1925 Rentan showing when taking to the ground in Kusanku
kata, he also looked to the side, or perhaps the rear when he was on the
ground.
Victor Donald Smith It does make all those posts about
this being inappropriate for the move take a different light.
David Hansen I was taught the knee is outside
the arm allowing a deeper position. Low like Snake.
Angel
Lemus
Dont forget westerners have a longer ankle to knee distance ration than short
little Okinawan, that is why they can do the knee as shown here. Long legged
westerners unless they are very skinny and limber mostly have to put the knee
outside not because of any reason than they can't do it like the Okinawans.
Then you bring into account the post 40 year-old metabolism changes and you
grow wider and heavier, and lets not forget the beer belly. Its not happening.
Andy Sloane Knee on the outside of the arm for
Isshin-ryu Kusanku. Knee on the inside of the arm for Kusanku Sai because
you're resting on the sai handles.
Vince Morris Could simply be he has done the
technique and is - correctly - looking in the direction of his next move.
Roy Kamen telling the student to his left
what he is doing :-)
Victor Donald Smith I was not supporting one method as
more correct, just showing the head turned.
Victor Donald Smith Of course the correct method is
the one I taught. Sorry about all the other versions. :-)
Joe Swift of course there is no evidence
that kusanku as practiced in "ANY" modern system is
"correct," either :D
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